tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post4806153848009789004..comments2023-11-05T21:22:27.350-08:00Comments on Exploring The Time Lab: Writers Block: The Conflicting Relationship of Bruce Wayne and Jason Todd Part 2Erin S.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15663158782066282265noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post-47851732753169398632015-07-29T15:57:26.164-07:002015-07-29T15:57:26.164-07:00Thanks, the writers do give us a lot to think abou...Thanks, the writers do give us a lot to think about.<br /><br />It really is especially if you consider some of the traumas the bat kids grew up with. I wouldn't blame Jason for holding onto his past but the fact that he's trying to let go really says a lot. Not just about him but Bruce who's kinda of emotionally stunted. <br /><br />Jason is pretty mature (when written right) while Bruce often comes off petty like the stages of grief arc. He never properly apologizes but Jason moves past it to be the better man. The fact that he owns up to his mistakes more than others really stands out.<br /><br />I'd like to get Jasons' POV on the case but he never says anything about it. His death is often used as a prop with little regard to the actual person. Snyder even had Dick take the crowbar that was being auctioned off. He made it sound like it would be used in future plots but it never was.<br /><br />I always got a strong vibe that Bruce basically sees Jason as a ghost. From there he struggles with whether he can care for Jason like a son or separate himself from him emotionally. <br /><br />Taking him to the site of his death was a cruel action. I do think it was about more than just Damian being brought back because let's face it the likelihood that this plan would work was slim. It might have also been due to his own frustration with not understanding Jason (how/why he came back) bubbling over after another sons' death.<br /><br />Yeah I remember Bruce wanting to blow up the alien invaders in the Batman/Superman annual but only saying no because the debris would kill humans. Then he asked Jason to kill for him and then he was against it once they were on the ship. Bruce flip flops a lot.Erin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15663158782066282265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post-33383457432583854182015-07-29T14:34:47.124-07:002015-07-29T14:34:47.124-07:00Another excellent post. and I have to say, your th...Another excellent post. and I have to say, your theories are pretty solid.<br /><br />Is interesting how when you think about it, Bruce is the one with the biggest baggage and how this influences his actions with the rest of the family.<br /><br />While Jason has some issues to sort out, he actually faces them and acknowledges his shortcomings, making him much more stable and mature than Bruce. On the N52 at least.<br /><br />The bit about the memorial case is also an excellent point to raise and one that has always been glossed over. The only story where it was alluded was on UtRH where Bruce says Alfred that it stays because nothing has changed at all. The implication being of course, that Red Hood Jason isn't "his" Jason. <br /><br />At this point the case is kind of a permament element on the Batcave but it would been amazing if Bruce would've took it down shortly after DOTF, as a sign of him fully embracing Jason back (or at the least, reworking it to hold Jason's Red Hood gear)<br /><br />Bruce's commitment to the no-killing rule is a trickier element since is a somewhat modern paradygm for him. Batman kills on the original stories and certain adaptations have him adopt a more "flexible" posture about it (and there are stories that imply his rule only applies to human beings)Dark_Tzitziminehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17055905660404131186noreply@blogger.com