tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post7909967921506447014..comments2023-11-05T21:22:27.350-08:00Comments on Exploring The Time Lab: Writers' Block: The Complicated Relationship of Bruce Wayne and Jason Todd Part 3Erin S.http://www.blogger.com/profile/15663158782066282265noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post-43270381003671550512015-08-10T00:28:25.578-07:002015-08-10T00:28:25.578-07:00I didn't mean to imply they were going to kick...I didn't mean to imply they were going to kick him out. I saw that scene as them knowing they had to be careful in gaining Jasons' trust. They must have saw something in him to be willing to trust him with the secret and offer him a shot at being Robin. What I found odd was Jason getting ready to take off and no one tried to talk him down from it. They might have had their reasons but it would give him the wrong impression.<br /><br />I thought Jason had already healed from that. There's no mention of him being beaten up in Secret Origins, just that Leslie took him in.<br /><br />True although some characters vary because of the writers like Supergirl. Johns, Pak and Tomasi have had heroes acting like it was no big deal but you never know.<br /><br />I can kinda see them not getting why Jason acts a certain way if they haven't seen the whole picture. I hated what Tomasi did on Batman and Red Hood #20. What made it worse was how it was swept away like it was nothing. But he still showed the conflict pretty well at the start of the issue. Jason flat out said that they weren't good yet even though they had just made up. It's a work in progress.<br /><br />It's not a relationship where Jason blindly obeys. Actually it's a give and take. Jason doesn't kill around other bats and Batman doesn't stop him from doing things his way when Jasons' away from them.Erin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15663158782066282265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3056373842046198497.post-88086835388290016872015-08-09T22:31:11.033-07:002015-08-09T22:31:11.033-07:00Great analysis, not a lot to add but there are som...Great analysis, not a lot to add but there are some points I believe I can help with.<br /><br />You mention about Jason's exchange with Alfred (the morning before the reveal) being odd. I don't think Bruce or Alfred ever thought of kicking Jason out, so his intention of leaving the manor could be more Jason's insecurities and guilt. He doesn't feel he belongs there and believes the best is for him to leave on his own accord.<br /><br />Is not clear but is likely Jason is still convalecent from the wounds that got him on Leslie's clinic on the first place so that's why says "he's better now" when talking to Bruce.<br /><br />The general outlook of the superhero community regarding Jason is one of the most intriguing aspects of the N52 and one I wish is cleared soon. Certainly isn't Lobdell's fault since the Batman corner of the DCU is pretty isolated, making very hard to properly define how it relates with the larger picture.<br /><br />The different persectives between Jason and Bruce on the N52 are one of the aspects that the critcis and detractors of RHATO always miss. For them Jason is a mindless soldier that obeys Bruce's every command when that is far from being true... even if is diminished on Jason's appearances on other Bat Books.<br />Dark_Tzitziminehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17055905660404131186noreply@blogger.com